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Estimating Logarithms without Using a CalculatorDate: 07/28/2005 at 13:02:30 From: Amanda Subject: log problem I am trying to find the following answer without a calculator: log_4 12 From reading respones from Dr. Math, I believe the statement to read: what is the power(exponent) that raises a base of 4 to make 12. I can come to a broad conclusion that the answer is between 1 and 2. Other than that I have the problem 4^x = 12. How do I solve? Thanks
Date: 07/28/2005 at 14:53:48
From: Doctor Douglas
Subject: Re: log problem
Hi Amanda.
Excellent work so far. Indeed you are solving 4^x = 12 for x, and it
is clear that 1 is too small and 2 is too big. A good way to continue
proceeding is to factorize 12:
12 = 4 * 3.
So we can write
4^x = 4 * 3
Taking the log of each side, we get
x*log(4) = log(4*3) = log(4) + log(3)
and we can solve for x as
x = [log(4) + log(3)]/log(4)
= 1 + log(3)/log(4)
which is about as simple as one can get without resorting to a
calculator to compute the logarithms. Now it gets a little more
complicated to proceed with finding a numerical answer if we are not
permitted the use of a calculator.
Here's a way to do so, where I assume that the logs are taken in base
10:
log(3): Consider powers of 3. 3^2 = 9, which is close to 10^1.
Hence 2*log(3) is approximately equal to 1*log(10) = 1,
or log(3) :=: 1/2, where I use the colons to indicate
"approximately equal to". For more accuracy, we can
take higher powers of 3 until we find another one that
is close to a power of 10: 3^21 :=: 10^10, so that
log(3) = 10/21 = 0.47619.
log(4): We do the same with powers of 4: 4^5 :=: 10^3, so
log(4) :=: 3/5 = 0.6, to pretty good accuracy. I say
pretty good accuracy because 4^5 = 1024 and 10^3 = 1000
only differ by 2.4%. In fact we can't do much better
until going all the way to 4^98 :=: 10^59, whereupon
log(4) :=: 59/98 = 0.6020408...
The calculations above require nothing more than simple arithmetic and
a knowledge of the rules of logarithms, although I admit that the
multiplication can be painstaking.
So our estimates are
x = 1 + log(3)/log(4)
:=: 1 + (1/2)/(3/5) = 1.83... by computing 3^2 and 4^5
:=: 1 + (10/21)/(59/98) = 1.791... by computing 3^21 and 4^98
Using a calculator, I obtain log(3) = 0.477121255.... and log(4) =
0.602059991..., and a final answer of x = 1.792481250360578... This
shows that our estimates aren't too bad.
Remark: we could have just started from powers of 12 in the
beginning: 12^5 = 248832 :=: 262144 = 4^9, so an estimate for
our answer is x = log(12)/log(4) = 9/5 = 1.8, which is not too
bad. However, if we do it this way then we have to be able to
recognize when a power of 12 is in fact close to a power of 4.
It's a lot easier to do these computations by using base 10 as an
intermediary, since it is very easy to recognize the powers of 10.
To do this efficiently, it was helpful in the beginning to factor
the original 12 into smaller numbers to reduce the amount of
multiplicative arithmetic.
- Doctor Douglas, The Math Forum
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