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Using Two Irrationals to Generate All Positive IntegersDate: 10/03/2003 at 00:59:55 From: Sarah Subject: two irrational numbers a, b generating all positive integers If a and b are positive irrational numbers such that 1/a + 1/b = 1, then every positive integer can be uniquely expressed as either floor (ka) or floor(kb), where k is a positive integer. I don't know how to approach this kind of problem. It's asking me to show that somehow a and b can generate every possible positive integer. How do I do that?
Date: 10/03/2003 at 05:21:26
From: Doctor Jacques
Subject: Re: two irrational numbers a, b generating positive integers
Hi Sarah,
This is a very interesting question indeed.
We may first record some useful facts:
* As neither a or b is 1/2, if, for example, a < b, we have:
1 < a < 2
2 < b
* As neither a or b is rational, no number of the form ka, kb, k/a,
k/b, (for integer k), is an integer.
We show first that every integer N >= 1 can be expressed at least in
one way as floor(ka) or floor(mb).
Assume that this is not the case. This means that there are integers
k, m, and N such that
1) ka < N
2) N+1 < (k+1)a
3) mb < N
4) N+1 < (m+1)b
where all the inequalities are strict because a and b are irrational,
as noted above.
With a little algebra, we can deduce from this:
1) (k/N) < (1/a) < (k+1)/(N+1)
2) (m/N) < (1/b) < (m+1)/(N+1)
and, adding these together:
(k+m)/N < (1/a) + (1/b) = 1
1 = (1/a) + (1/b) < (k+m+2)/(N+1)
which leads to:
k+m < N < k + m + 1
This says that there is an integer N strictly between consecutive
integers (k+m) and (k+m+1), an obvious contradiction.
Let us now consider the unicity question. As a and b are > 1, there
is at most one integer k and one integer m such that N = floor(ka) or
N = floor(mb). We must show that it is not possible to have both,
i.e. that we cannot have:
N = floor(ka) = floor(mb)
We use a similar technique: assume, by contradiction, that the above
equality holds for some k, m, N. We have:
1) N < ka < N+1
2) N < mb < N+1
Can you transform the above relations to get a contradiction similar
to the previous one (an integer strictly between two consecutive
integers)?
Please feel free to write back if you require further assistance.
- Doctor Jacques, The Math Forum
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